Further modifications include a custom hardtop with several handholds, LED overhead lighting extended to ends of engine boxes and a custom safety raft mount on top below the marlin tower floor. Very pleased with progress of the project! my 2 cents. I also have cummins 270s in mine. the price is negotiable? And it does so while weighing some 70 kilograms less. Everyone, everywhere in our world knows the 31 Bertram. Everything said on this post is true, all valid points. EGTs never exceed 700F-750F max at any rpm. 34 Hatteras Plus it sounds like your going to keep your 31 for a long time. Thanks for bringing this to the forum. Walter. I read in the posts here about a windlass ?? Jimmy G just put QSB's in his and I know he is happy. At 2200 rpms and 22 knts, the motors are loafing. Just some of my thoughts. What speed are the Yanmars rated at, and what transmission ratio are you considering? I've got 454s in my 31 and I replaced one of the motors last year total cost was around $6000, I will likely replace the other motor in a few years. by ranjr13 Dec 28th, '15, 11:34, Post 35 Egg Harbor Admittedly, the owner of the 35-foot Bertram Moppie Fiddler says it took him a beat to get used to his boats new power package and controls after repowering the 1970 build using Volvo Penta IPS600 with D6 435 diesels. 28792 | TEL: 305-743-0269 | FAX: The original windshield was removed and replaced by an EZ2CY three quarter enclosure with various openings for ventilation. by Bill Mckinnon Sep 22nd, '08, 17:29, Post by Joe E May 17th, '16, 01:36, Post by bob lico Sep 22nd, '08, 22:45, Post This boat is the basis for the project that will create a one of a kind Bertram 31. Selecting Right Bottom Paint for Your Boat. Subscribe to InTheBite to get our latest issue - You don't want to miss it! by Navatech Dec 29th, '15, 15:33, Post Do you have any interior pictures?. The GOOD windlass is the best windlass Ive ever used on a boat. I am very excited to see that the project has started, its going to be a lot of fun and especially when it is done and we are fishing. Think about it and talk to Tony. This was my dream project. 30 Trawler He repowered her w/ Yanmar 4LHs (must be 15 years now) and she cruises great and sips fuel. Priceless is equipped with oversized shafts swinging 1819 wheels. Bertram Model: Moppie 31 Type: Sport Fisherman Hull Material: Fiberglass Use: Salt Water Engine Type: Twin Inboard Engine Make: Cummins Primary Fuel Type: Diesel For Sale By: Private Seller Fuel Capacity: Over 200 Gallons Hull ID Number: BERG1853M80H31580 Length: 31.0 feet Beam: 9.5 feet Raiting: Cancel rating Give Bertram Moppie 31 1/5 For ease of operation, I have painted the chain a bright orange a few feet ahead of the anchor. With questionable older small shafts, the money difference was relatively small in upgrading - at least it was for me. I have no problem if they need to be rebuilt either or "freshened up". Part of the reason for our success is our ability to understand customers needs and tailor each package to optimize budget and maximize vessel performance. by J Clark Sep 22nd, '08, 21:13, Post Thus if they do go a season or two, I'd be ahead of the game. I have an open mind to new ideas, my primary criteria when considering each issue of this project is function and durability. Blackened the surface of a small section of the glass. Something else to think about, In order to reach the 3100+ RPM recommended for the 370, you will almost certainly have to have about one inch less pitch than you would use with the 330s. Cockpit Deck Soles 40 Knot, 31 ft. Bertram Odyssey. The quality of our work will exceed your expectations. She is a Bahia Mar version of the 31, produced in the early days of the Express boats popular today. Ralph *** ***. Navatech - whoa horsey, that's a ton of great info. Our business plans have changed and lack of time forces sell. While we are at your vessel we take engine and transmission installation measurements and discuss with you in person every aspect of the repower. 36 Uniflite I have an opportunity to get a project 25' Bertram that needs stringers and transom work I was thinking of putting twin ford 302's bumped to 250 hp and put in alpha gen 1 outdrives. What a great project and choice of engines ! Low hours and ready to go. Repowers . It is compact as well, so it will fit into the existing engine bay without any costly engineering, David said. Yachting may receive financial compensation for products purchased through this site. The tower is anchored by stanchions of three-foot custom aluminum tubing and provides seating for two. I would recommend bringing it all the way back. Pulpit Lower idle speed yet, way quieter, way smoother, superior and easier to install instrumentation or engine monitoring capabilities, a tad better overall fuel economy, and ZERO smoke HOT or cold.. Theyll be propped quite light.. Many of the several thousand built are still in use today, around the globe, still catching more than their share. by scot Sep 23rd, '08, 22:57, Post According to Soundings, aficionados refer to it as "Bertram Art." I thought I would add to my post to clarify why I am putting my project on this forum. 28 Beal After its restoration it has real weight with half-filled deposit of 7.5 tones. I use controls on the bridge and a remote when I want to operate from the bow. I don't know how often you will be using your boat, but i put on 300 to 350 hours per season. I went to 1 3/4' shafts after that . For all the nervous Nellies out there after 46 years of being around boats, traveling on them, living on them, working on them the over whelming majority of fires I came across were on diesel boats. Actually, in the end, the Patriot is going for QSB 380sWhy you ask? My intention would be to use RTO's with gears and would either be Cummin B 250hp (or more) OR Yanmar 6LPA 315's. (unless I got my hands on a pair of yanmar 240's). Chain tangles because it falls faster than the anchor. Vents I would think aluminum would be much better. With the off-chance that either they fail earlier or I decide to move quicker, any thoughts on current model year replacement engines? Replacement Fly Bridge - Bertram 31: Home All rights Reserved. I have Cummins and I question your guys saying its a more difficult installation and the need for more air for the Cummins. For weight reasons the stainless will be very thin wall and maybe smaller diameter as well. Often times several power options are examined prior to beginning the job. when it come to personal opinion i have one in my boat as generator (MASE) my corp has four small 3000 watt portable generators but they are all L-9 motors same as john deere small tractors absolutely nothing to do with using a Toyota land cruiser engine marinize in a 31 Bertram.they have abandon there stp 315 hp completely as a matter of fact you could hold a complete cylinder head as a ransom actually worth as much as the rest of the entire motor due to customers with a engine that went down due to a drop valve will pay big bucks to get there boat back in water. by In Memory Walter K Sep 26th, '08, 12:07, Post Scuppers and Seacocks My present boat has the 330Bs and 220A gears, you will love these engines for the unmatched combination of simplicity, reliability and performance. Therefore, we are able to offer the widest selection of motors at the best prices around. Regarding my engines I purchased her with the 330Bs. One stripe equals 30 feet, 2 stripes equals 60 feet etc. Niels, Tony, by ed c. 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Bertram Odyssey, Marine Age the REAL age of a Marine Diesel Engine, Propellers Move Boats, Engines Just Turn Them, Everything you Need to Know About Marine Exhaust Systems, Continuous Duty A Different Perspective. Over the past couple of years while doing research I came across the project completed by Seaboard Marine, Shooter awhile back and started reading various forums on this site. Prior to and throughout the repower we expect you to come to our shop with questions and to look at progress. I had a Volvo in my last boat ( maintanice nightmare) and a gas marine power in my boat before that. 212 hours already and counting. 58 Bayliner Im looking for about 50 kts. Fiberglass Understood on your plan. by Tony Meola Jun 1st, '16, 22:56, Post Good Luck. To accommodate all of the tackle necessary for canyon trips and trolling, the Priceless has 12 rod holders on gunwales and on transom, plus two additional rows of six rocket launchers on marlin tower. Dirt simple, cheap parts, and they ran and ran. 200 rpms available if you want or need them. You need to decide on the size engine you want. I've got 300hp 6BTA's in my 33 Bert. Both will need roughly a 20" diameter wheel. Sadly the 6BT wont fit, so hes choosing between Yanmar 4 and 6 cylinder options. I check my lobster traps a couple of times per week. Lower cabin & engine box work This all had to ties together structurally so we could create the strength and stiffness needed for out projected 30K cruiser. The 3.0 mercruisers are 135hp at the prop I believe. by In Memory Walter K Sep 22nd, '08, 19:32, Post For example, there are a lot of people with older 28, 31, 35 Bertrams who are still running their original, tired engines, said David Meehan, Director of MerCruiser (Australia, New Zealand, Pacific). Where I boat there are long stretches of river running to the ocean and I didnt want a down easter that cruised at 16 knots. Repower Projects "ORCA" H&H Downeast Lobster Boat Build; Farallon 27 Repower "Sea Harvester" Radon Boat Extension; . Stainless Steel Products The re sale on a diesel is way greater. I'd be more choosey about your installer as right now he certainly has a credibility gap with me. She looks salty, runs true, is exceptionally comfortableand catches fish! 46 Matthews The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly. Any thoughts would be appreciated, as well as present day price info from any recent boats would be greatly appreciated. It cruise @3200 rpm 22 knots. These seemed to be more prevalent on west coast based Bertrams vs. east coast based Bertrams where many of them dont have bow railings at all. Great project! Gas Shocks I did not need to change shafts. Unless salt water cooled your manifolds should last a good long time, risers on the other hand need to be replaced every few years "diesel don't loose rpm's going up the hill." Topics. The refrigerator has been replaced and all new cushions complete with overhead rod racks. most are done with aluminum which allows you to use a much, much thinker tubing. I had a Lewmar windlass on my previous 31 Blackfin. Just a small remote about the size of a key fob for a car. If you don't use a lot your boat on long cruises is better be on gas the maintenance is cheap. Some finish up notes: On launch day, we pumped in 230 gallons of #2 and already had 20 in the tanks. if I go this route of a 31 with gassers I will intend to repower not long after. Bait Wells Im 54, so Im a little old-school, he stated in a press release. I have a friend with similar vintage Bertram 31 Express that is used 100% for offshore fishing and he loves it. by Navatech May 17th, '16, 10:59, Post Not as quick as my 20-year-old, who picked it up in a second, but I picked it up pretty quick.. Ill try to get more photos posted on a regular basis as time permits. by JP Dalik Sep 22nd, '08, 17:41, Post My reason for preferring the 330 HP motor is you simply dont need the added HP provided by the 370 (20 HP per side), and I assume you will be paying more for it. 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